Stephen

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Stephen
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January 2016

1 month 2 weeks ago - Commented on New colour system - Trash!

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New translucent colours coming in - which is good... a little basic at just few, but a good start!

My next spanner to throw into the works :)  - I have Fillamentum Vertigo Grey and Vertigo Galaxy, which are dark grey with silver sparkle, and black with gold sparkle respectively. With people love. How do I list these colours other than the general choice of "multicolour"?

 

Steve

1 month 2 weeks ago - Posted a new Thread

Just a quickie - but who decided to move from the neutral shades of Green and Red buttons to all buttons, all notifications and all links Purpley-Blue?? I thought my browser CSS was broke when it first happened, but soon sadly realised that this must be "an upgrade" to the style.  

2 months 2 weeks ago - Commented on New colour system - Trash!

2 months 2 weeks ago - Commented on New colour system - Trash!

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Where are we at with the additional colours and "translucent" colours being added? I agree with others that if a custom "approved colour" system cannot be implemented - at least if we could get dark and light variations of all colours to pick, and translucent variations too, that would solve most peoples issues?

 

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2 months 2 weeks ago - Commented on Hub location - Preston, UK

2 months 3 weeks ago - Commented on New colour system - Trash!

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Never knew about this option - handy for "end of spool" use! :)

 

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2 months 3 weeks ago - Commented on New colour system - Trash!

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Cool, glad I could be of help! The iron and steel fill were more edge case examples as you have included copper and bronze, but these filaments have actual material properties of steel/iron particles. But looking more at the "add material" I guess you would add the material as "Steel fill" and choose the colours as "material colour". That's fine - like I said, its a very very edge case, and customers should know that the material is what it is! :)

 

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2 months 3 weeks ago - Commented on New colour system - Trash!

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Just to throw in more flies into the ointment.... There is a difference between opaque, translucent and transparent.... I would never describe FDM filament as transparent, but "translucent". Glass is transparent, as is commercial plastics such as PET bottles etc. But FDM printing translucent objects is far from simple, and not easily done. I have had many discussions with customers as they are expecting a cool solid looking "transparent" plastic object - so I continue to describe and name my plastics as "translucent" - i.e. "they allow light though, but you cannot see through it".

 

Buy yes - adding in a "Translucent" option to the default colours would be very useful and solve more edge cases. What about exotic mixes like glitter fills, and other metals such as iron fill, steel fill etc? Very very edge case!!

 

Steve

2 months 3 weeks ago - Commented on New colour system - Trash!

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Yes agree there. Like 3DH have said - this solution has covered "99%" of order colours, and i'd probably agree there too - I print large amount of black, white and grey. But it's the edge cases that are the issue here, and there appears to be no solution to them. I think the translucent colours are a key issue, and maybe (if they could get stats on the orders) exotic colours like glitter versions such as Vertigo Grey/Galaxy - which are neither Grey, nor Silver, nor Multicolour.

 

Their solution is a start, but they need to answer or advise on what we can do to cater for bespoke or mildly off palette colour requests. It's funny that they have catered for Pink and Hot Pink.... but other colours just have light and dark versions. There must be a hot pink dev working on this?! :)

 

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2 months 3 weeks ago - Commented on New colour system - Trash!

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Mmmm - the forceful requirements to put filament into single colour choice is a terrible idea. I can see why they wanted to consolidate the choice, but in the 3D printing (FDM) environment, there's not just set colours. The previous update of changing how customers chose filament based on manufacturer name seemed like a good idea and opened up the ability for people (if they were bothered) to choose exactly what they were after, but now to say "you can have a very specific brand of filament - but it's all the same yellow" is just daft!  Manufacturers of filament try to stand out by creating new colour blends and different names to accompany that colour.

 

Issue 1 example (for me): I chose yellow as an example, as I have in my inventory, which I offer at one time or another - Yellow, Lemon Yellow, Neon Yellow - but now I can only say it's "yellow" despite the end colours being very different from each other. (Just having a look on Filaprint which gives a shop by colour choice - I want "Yellow", I can choose "True Yellow, Traffic Yellow, Fluorescent Yellow, Yellow Sun,Luminous Yellow, Melon Yellow, Signal Yellow, Lemon Yellow, Sulfur Yellow, Daffodil Yellow, Transparent Yellow, Translucent Yellow, Yellow Gold, and Yellow"). :)

 

Issue 2 example (for me): My other issue would be that I have just successfully got Fillamentum added to the manufacturer client list - so I could offer their Vertigo Grey and Vertigo Galaxy filaments. Most in the printing industry know exactly what those colours are, and if you don't you can just google them and be suitability impressed. However - I can no longer offer these as "material" choices, as they don't fit in to their limited colour choice (nor are they "multicolour", which is also a daft choice to put in there).

 

Issue 3 example (for me): I have (had) a lot of PETG material, and offered a lot of opaque and translucent options, including colours that were the same, but in opaque and translucent. It was very clear to the customer that they were getting either a "solid blue", or a "translucent blue", but again - this flexibility has now gone, and I can no longer offer translucent colours/materials. I have had a lot of orders with customers enquiring about the translucent properties of a blue PLA I had, as they were very keen on it, but now - no option to stock that.

 

I would love to have been notified of this update - as my printers have both been offline now for what seems like all weekend, not allowing me to have any orders processed by the looks of it (due to my material choice not fitting into the limited palette).

 

It would be good to get some feedback from 3DHubs about this, and what they plan to do to offer more exotic colours and choice back to the customer (who from what I have seen had zero issue choosing colour). I want to be able to offer as much colour, material and brand choice that my customers may or may not want. This update crushes this ability. I agree with @Boelle - we need to just get on with it, adapt your Hub profile and make it work for what they offer rather than rant and complain again about another update - but c'mon 3DH - can we get a good response on why this was taken, and the reasons to eliminate so many colour and finish choices available? Are we going to see an option to submit colours to be added, like material manufacturer, that can be verified and added?

 

Steve

 

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